- 1.Lean Period
- 2.A Sad Lament
- 4.Low Expectations
- 5.What Presence_!
- 6.The Measure of the Man
- 7.One Is a Lonely Number
- 8.Campaign for Real Rock
Do you have any bootlegs of OJ or Edwyn at all?
Wow! God bless your archive Jamie. Have seen Edwyn solo countless times, but only once got to see the Juice a-juicin' up the house in concert.
That was at, as you rightly record: 28TH APRIL - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
A life changing event for me, aged about 13 or so, I can tell you. My tunes, my clothes, my understanding of pop culture, my hair (that one never worked: a curlytop lad can never really win the struggle for a decent quiff, though god knows I tried) were never the same again.
I remember Edwyn introducing I Guess I'm Just a Little Too Sensitive as a Smiths cover or something more elegantly quipped along those lines. From thereon in it was bye-bye indie, hello chooglin. He also said at one point that last time they'd played Colchester it had "been full of Bauhaus fans". Yikes!
It was one of the greatest nights in my pop life.
I think some of that spirit is still present in the snap of me taken yesterday in a dusty 24-hr games arcade in Nanjing where I'd rocked up at a loose end, and discovered - oh sweet baby jesu - a drumming game. I was only customer, so pic taken by sweet teen night-shift attendant. Needless to say we both had a few goes.
I was at the fantastic East Kilbride gig...support was Goodbye Mr Mackenzie.Orange Juice came on to the sound of Tavares- Heaven Must be Missing an Angel ! #1 line up
BANNOCKBURN COMMUNITY CENTRE 81/82/83??
Regarding this it was actually The Mayfield Centre in St Ninians (small part of Stirling right next to Bannockburn), and to the best of my recollection they played the venue twice. The gigs were at least months apart, maybe even a full year. I always thought it was strange that they played my home town twice but neither time was at the more common Pathfoot hall at the local university.
I can't remember the dates, it was approx 30 years ago so the memory is well oblitererated. I am sure I was familiar with lots of songs so that probably means both gigs were after the release of the debut album.
I've made a couple of songbooks if you're interested. (chords and lyrics for OJ and solo stuff... not exactly finished though)
I can offer up two OJ gigs in Cambridge.
The first was at Selwyn College's May Ball in June 1984. I can't place the exact date I'm afraid. I do remember they didn't seem terribly pleased to be there and there were only a couple of hundred watching (all in dinner dress). Very little audience chat and a grumpy Alan Horne roaming the marquee.
The Boomtown Rats were originally booked but the guitarist broke his leg or something; a vote went around the college asking folks to choose between Sad Cafe and Orange Juice. Sad Cafe won by a mile but we press- ganged the organisers to go against the popular vote.
They played later that year on 17 November 1984 at CCAT (Cambridge College of Art & Technology - now Anglia University I think) which was a much better and cheerier gig. You have a gig in Dublin on that date but they were certainly in Cambridge. I still have the tour poster which says they were in Torquay on 15 November and Watford on 16 November (rather than Belfast). I've attached a picture of the poster for you.
They also played in Brighton at the Pavilion Theatre on 22 June 1984. I have the flyer but honestly cannot remember if I was there.
For the record and a gig I don't see on the list..
I attended a Josef K and Orange Juice Headlining gig at Londons Drill Hall in 16 Chenies Steet W1. This must have been 81 or 82 ( I remember Josef Ks song announcements being taped airport ladies voice " Josek Ks next song will be called radio Drill time " etc) ha!
Hi - I have a ticket from a gig from 1982, 27 November at The Sugar House, Lancaster.
I've done an update and corrected a few - anyone want to help fill in the blanks?
ORANGE JUICE GIGOGRAPHY:
NOV – PAISLEY, SILVER THREAD (AS NU-SONICS)
DEC - GLASGOW, MARYHILL TOWN HALL? (AS NU-SONICS)
21ST DEC - QUEENS X ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND, XMAS PARTY (AS NU-SONICS)
17TH JAN - GLASGOW SATELLITE CITY, SAUCIEHALL ST (w/STEEL PULSE) (AS NU-SONICS)
SEPT – PAISLEY, SILVER THREAD (AS NU-SONICS)
MARCH – GLASGOW, VICTORIA CAFÉ (LUNCHTIME GIG) SCHOOL OF ART (FIRST OJ GIG)
2OTH APR - GLASGOW, HALDANE BUILDING, SCHOOL OF ART
21ST APR - EDINBURGH, TEVIOT ROW* (w/ TV ART aka JOSEF K ‘FELICITY FLEXI SESSIONS’)
30TH JUNE – NETHERBOW, EDINBURGH (w/ TV ART aka JOSEF K, CHRIS GORDON ON DRUMS?))
16TH OCT - EDINBURGH, AQUARIUS (supporting SCARS, CHRIS GORDON ON DRUMS?)
12/1/80 - FALLING AND LAUGHING RECORDED
20TH MARCH – EDINBURGH, CLOUDS (supporting SCARS)
11TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS)
24TH APRIL - GLASGOW, TECH COLLEGE* (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS) (THIS GIG ADVERTISED AS 17TH, BUT PUT BACK WEEK?)
30/4/80 - BLUEBOY RECORDED
6TH AUGUST - CARLISLE, MICK’S CLUB (w/JOSEF K)
8TH AUGUST - PAISLEY, BUNGALOW BAR (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS)
SEPT – SPAGHETTI FACTORY RESIDENCY, GLASGOW?? (INCLUDING 9TH SEPT)
30/9/80 – SIMPLY THRILLED HONEY RECORDED
5TH OCT – GLASGOW, GI GIs, WEST GEORGE STREET (w/JOSEF K)
10TH OCT – EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (‘POSTCARD PACKAGE w/JOSEF K)
19TH OCT – LONDON, MARQUEE (w/THE ASSOCIATES)
1ST NOV - MANCHESTER POLY (w/ THE FALL, JOSEF K – cancelled - KEVIN HEWITT, CHOIR BOYS, HAMSTERS, AU PAIRS, JOHN PEEL ROADSHOW)
2ND NOV - LONDON, LYCEUM (SUPPORTING BUZZCOCKS w/DELMONTES, AUPAIRS, THINGS)
8TH DEC - LANCASTER UNIVERSITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
9TH DEC - GLASGOW, TIFFANYS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
11TH DEC - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES; FIRST NIGHT OF ROCK CITY)
12TH DEC - HULL, CITY HALL (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
14TH DEC - SOUTHAMPTON, GAUMONT (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES) (ORIGINALLY DOWN TO PLAY LONDON, 101 CLUB WITH FIRE ENGINES ON THIS DATE, ASSUMED CANCELLED)
15TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
16TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
17TH DEC – LONDON, MOONLIGHT CLUB (w/ HUANG CHUNG) (WAS THIS CANCELLED?)
31ST DEC - BRUSSELS, PLAN K (w/ JOSEF K)
?? - GLASGOW, SQUARE THEATRE (w/METROPAK)
?? – SOUTHAMPTON UNIVERSITY (w/23 SKIDOO)
?? – GLASGOW, MAYFAIR (w/FIRE ENGINES, BOBBY BLUEBELL ON SOUND-DESK)(RECALLED BY BOBBY GILLESPIE)- BUT WAS THIS THE ROSELAND GIG 1981?
?? LONDON, ULU (with associates) OCT 17th?
4TH JAN - LONDON, ICA (w/JOSEF K, BLUE ORCHIDS)
19TH MARCH - LEEDS WAREHOUSE
20TH MARCH - RETFORD, PORTERHOUSE
21ST MARCH - MIDDLESBROUGH, ROCK GARDENS
31ST MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, BOAT CLUB*
1ST APRIL - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS*
2ND APRIL - SHEFFIELD, LIMIT CLUB (w/POSITIVE CODE)
3RD APRIL - LIVERPOOL, BRADYS (w/THE CABAL)
10TH APRIL - STIRLING, UNIVERSITY (MAYFIELD CENTRE) (w/WALLPAPER)*
22ND APRIL - GLASGOW, ROSELAND BALLROOM (w/FIRE ENGINES)
4TH MAY – OXFORD, SCAMPS
8th MAY(?) – WOLVERHAMPTON LAFAYETTE
10TH MAY - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS* (w/ BLAZING SADDLES)
20th MAY – PAISLEY, UNIVERSITY WEST SCOTLAND
10TH JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB* (W/AZTEC CAMERA, POSITIVE NOISE; FILMED FOR JOCK N ROLL TV)
6TH AUG - LONDON, THE VENUE * (w/ THE BLUEBELLS)
19TH AUG - LIVERPOOL, PLATOS BALLROOM (w/ PALE FOUNTAINS, WILD SWANS)
20TH AUG - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
OCTOBER? – LONDON, SOHO (FILMED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, AIRED 6.11.81) (FIVE PIECE OJ?)
1ST NOV – EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/AZTEC CAMERA, BLUEBELLS, JAZZATEERS) (COLIN AULD ON DRUMS?)
10TH DEC – LONDON, VENUE (SUPPORTING AZTEC CAMERA, STAND-IN DRUMMER?)
17TH DEC – GLASGOW, NIGHT MOVES (w/AZTEC CAMERA, BLUEBELLS, JAZZATEERS) (COLIN AULD ON DRUMS?)
?? - CAMBRIDGE
?? - HULL, DINGWALLS
?? – YORK JASPERS / MELODY
?? - OLYMPIA, EAST KILBRIDE (w/RECOGNITIONS, JOHN PEEL ROADSHOW)
?? – ABERDEEN, HOTEL METRO or VENUE?
20TH JAN - LONDON, THE VENUE (w/ DOLLY MIXTURE) (FIRST ZEKE GIG?)
21ST JAN - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS??
22ND JAN – NORWICH UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA (w/THE FARMER’S BOYS)
17TH FEB - BRISTOL, ANSON ROOMS, UNIVERSITY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
19TH FEB - BIRMINGHAM, IMPERIAL CINEMA (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
20TH FEB - DURHAM, UNIVERSITY
22ND FEB - NEWCASTLE, BIERKELLER/SOUL KITCHEN (w/ THE HAPPY FAMILY)
24TH FEB – LIVERPOOL UNIVERSITY
25TH FEB - LONDON, THE VENUE (w/ CHINA CRISIS, JANGALETTES)
26TH FEB – LONDON, HOLLOWAY, NORTH LONDON POLY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
27TH FEB – BRIGHTON, MANDELA HALL, SUSSEX UNIVERSITY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
1ST MARCH - OXFORD, SCAMPS (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
2ND MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ CHINA CRISIS and MODEL TEAM? aka JAMES)
3RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, FAGINS (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
5TH MARCH - LEICESTER, UNIVERSITY (w/ CHINA CRISIS)
6TH MARCH - RETFORD PORTERHOUSE*
8TH MARCH - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
4TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS (w/CHINA CRISIS)
6th APRIL – GLASGOW MAYFAIR (w/CHINA CRISIS)*
13TH MAY – DUBLIN, TV CLUB (w/THE BLADES)
12TH JUNE – STiRLING MAYFIELD CENTRE (w/H20, 22 BEACHES, POP WALLPAPER)
16TH JUNE - BRADFORD, UNIVERSITY (w/GO BETWEENS)
17TH JUNE – LEEDS POLY (w/GO BETWEENS)
11th NOV- LONDON, BRIXTON ACE (w/ORKESTRA JAZIRA) (‘WHATEVER YOU WANT’ TV)
13TH NOV - CARDIFF, UNIVERSITY
17TH NOV - LEICESTER, POLY
18TH NOV - SHEFFIELD, LYCEUM
20TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
21ST NOV - BRISTOL, LOCARNO (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
22ND NOV - BRIGHTON, TOP RANK
24TH NOV - KEELE, UNIVERSITY (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
25TH NOV - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
26TH NOV - LIVERPOOL, UNIVERSITY
27TH NOV – LANCASTER, SUGAR HOUSE (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
29TH NOV - EDINBURGH, COASTERS (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
30TH NOV - GLASGOW, MAYFAIR (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
1ST DEC - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
2ND DEC - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE & FARMER’S BOYS)
30TH DEC - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY?
26TH MARCH - NEWCASTLE, DINGWALLS (w/GO-BETWEENS)
28TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (w/GO BETWEENS)
29TH MARCH - HULL, DINGWALLS (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
31ST MARCH - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/MARINE GIRLS, GO-BETWEENS)
4TH APRIL - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE) (MOVED FROM MARCH)
5TH APRIL- NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE) (MOVE FROM MARCH)
1ST JULY – SWINDON, BRUNEL ROOMS (w/SCREAMING NOBODIES)
2ND JULY – AYLESBURY, FRIARS, MAXWELL HALL (w/SCREAMING NOBODIES, MAINFRAME)
3rd JULY – HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (w/BOURGIE BOURGIE, SCREAMING NOBODIES)
6TH AUG - LONDON, GLC PEACE CONCERT, VICTORIA PARK (LAST FOUR PIECE PERFORMANCE)
23RD MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
25TH MARCH - LEEDS, POLY (w/ GO BETWEENS)
26TH MARCH - GLASGOW, PAVILLION (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
28TH MARCH - LEICESTER, POLY
29TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
30TH MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA (w/GO BETWEENS?)
31ST MARCH - BIRMINGHAM, POLY
28TH APRIL - COLCHESTER, UNIVERSITY OF ESSEX
3RD MAY - ABERYSTWYTH, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK)
4TH MAY - SWANSEA, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK)
5TH MAY - OXFORD, POLY (w/ BLACK)
6TH MAY - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/PALE FOUNTAINS, BLACK)
9TH MAY - NEWCASTLE, MAYFAIR CLUB (w/ BLACK)
10TH MAY - ABERDEEN, RITZY (w/ BLACK)
12TH MAY - DUNDEE, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK)
13tTH MAY – EDINBURGH, CALEY PALACE (w/ BLACK)
17th JUN – DUNSTABLE, QUEENSWAY HALL (w/VIOLENT FEMMES) (DID THIS HAPPEN?)
19th JUN – LEICESTER, MR KEISA’S (DID THIS HAPPEN?)
21ST JUN - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (w/JONATHAN RICHMAN, JAMES KING AND LONE WOLVES) ('DADA WITH JUICE')
22ND JUN – BRIGHTON PAVILION THEATRE (w/ BLUE IN HEAVEN)
24TH JUN – BIRMINGHAM ODEON
25th JUN – MIDDLESBOROUGH TOWN HALL
26th JUN – READING UNIVERSITY
22ND SEPT – LONDON, CRYSTAL PALACE DOME (GLC GIG w/ MISTY IN ROOTS, AMAZULU et al, with STEVE SKINNER ON GUITAR)
1ST NOV - DUNFERMLINE, JOHNSONS (w/FOREIGN PRESS, ‘ARTISANS’ TOUR)
2ND NOV - GLASGOW, QMU
3RD NOV - NEWCASTLE, NORTHUMBRIA UNIVERSITY
4TH NOV - ABERDEEN, RITZY
5TH NOV - HULL, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
7TH NOV - MANCHESTER, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
8TH NOV - HATFIELD, POLY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
9TH NOV - UXBRIDGE, BRUNEL UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
10TH NOV – COLCHESTER, ESSEX, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
11TH NOV – NORWICH, UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
13TH NOV - PORTSMOUTH POLY(w/FOREIGN PRESS)
14TH NOV - CHIPPENHAM, GOLDDIGGERS (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
15TH NOV - TORQUAY, 400 CLUB (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
16TH NOV – WATFORD, HERTS COLLEGE (w/FOREIGN PRESS) (BELFAST CANCELLED?)
17TH NOV – CAMBRIDGE, CCAT STUDENT UNION (w/FOREIGN PRESS) (DUBLIN GIG ON THIS DATE CANCELLED IN FAVOUR OF THIS?)
19TH DEC – LONDON LYCEUM (w/BRILLIANT) Cancelled
?? JUNE/JULY CAMBRIDGE GRAD BALL?
19TH JAN - LONDON, BRIXTON RITZY (NOW ACADEMY) - LAST EVER GIG
LONDON, EMPIRE BALLROOM (84?)
BANNOCKBURN COMMUNITY CENTRE 81/82/83??
WALSALL TOWN HALL??
ASSEMBLY ROOMS, EDINBURGH (w/BIG DISH)?
Hi : 1982 Record Mirror lists
Tuesday 19th Jan as Norwich UAE gig
Thursday 21 Jan Manchester Eden (Oxford Street)
Friday 22 Jan Norwich UAE again! (re-scheduled from 19th?)
Sat 23 Jan Liverpool Warehouse, Fleet Street