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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on December 22, 2021 at 15:21

Must have been pre Aug 81 when JK split up. Chenies Street, now a RADA studio? Ive not seen any other reference to this gig (since you posted here in 2013) but sounds very feasible! JK did use taped introductions at LSE, and some other1981 gigs.

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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on December 30, 2021 at 18:39

Another summer ball at a College I am interested in confirming - Dublin Trinity College, May 1982, perhaps next day after OJ's only Dublin gig (13th May 1982, TV club, supported by The Blades). Absolutely no chance anyone on here will have any knowledge of this, but who knows!

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Permalink Reply by Mark D on March 17, 2022 at 15:34

1984, March 24 Tolworth Recreation Centre (Record Mirror)

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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on March 17, 2022 at 18:54

Oh - how interesting never heard of this before! will add - thanks! 

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Permalink Reply by Mark D on March 22, 2022 at 12:37

1983, March ... two dates postponed.

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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on March 22, 2022 at 13:30

Mark D you are combing the press! Yes think i noted this before, is this in Record Mirror? Happened in April: 4^TH APRIL  - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE) (MOVED FROM MARCH, EDWYN FLU)
5^TH APRIL- NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)  (MOVE FROM MARCH, EDWYN FLU)

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Permalink Reply by Mark D on March 22, 2022 at 13:42

yes, Record Mirror..eyes 'peeled' for Orange Juice news! I didn't see the corrections in the OP above so I thought you hadn't seen it.

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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on March 22, 2022 at 15:10

I will post again but still some puzzlements and gaps - thanks for your help!

ORANGE JUICE GIGOGRAPHY:

 

1977:

NOV – PAISLEY, SILVER THREAD (supporting SHOCK) AS NU-SONICS)

21^ST DEC - GLASGOW, QUEENS CROSS ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND XMAS PARTY  (AS NU-SONICS w/BACKSTABBERS?)

 

HARDGATE HALL, CLYDEBANK? (LAST ALAN DUNCAN GIG)

1978:

17^TH JAN - GLASGOW SATELLITE CITY, SAUCIEHALL ST (w/STEEL PULSE, BACKSTABBERS, SIMPLE MINDS) (AS NU-SONICS, FIRST DAVID McLYMONT GIG?)

SEPT  – PAISLEY, SILVER THREAD (AS NU-SONICS)

 

 

1979:

 

MARCH – GLASGOW, VICTORIA CAFÉ (LUNCHTIME GIG) SCHOOL OF ART (FIRST OJ GIG)

2OTH APR - GLASGOW, HALDANE BUILDING, SCHOOL OF ART
21ST APR - EDINBURGH, TEVIOT ROW* (w/ TV ART aka JOSEF K ‘FELICITY FLEXI SESSIONS’)

 

(STEVEN DALY LEAVES)

 

30TH JUNE – NETHERBOW, EDINBURGH (w/ TV ART aka JOSEF K, CHRIS GORDON ON DRUMS?)

16TH OCT - EDINBURGH, AQUARIUS (supporting SCARS, CHRIS GORDON ON DRUMS?)

1980:

12/1/80 - FALLING AND LAUGHING RECORDED, PAISLEY

(STEVEN DALY RETURNS ON DRUMS)

20TH MARCH – EDINBURGH, CLOUDS (supporting SCARS, w/ CHAOS)

11TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS)
24TH APRIL - GLASGOW, TECH COLLEGE* (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS, POEMS?) (THIS GIG ADVERTISED AS 17TH, BUT PUT BACK WEEK?)

 

30/4/80 - BLUEBOY RECORDED, CASTLE SOUND

 

6^TH AUGUST - CARLISLE, MICK’S CLUB (w/JOSEF K)

8^TH AUGUST - PAISLEY, BUNGALOW BAR (w/MELODRAMA)

SEPT – SPAGHETTI FACTORY RESIDENCY, GLASGOW?? (INCLUDING 9^TH SEPT)

 

30/9/80 – SIMPLY THRILLED HONEY RECORDED

 

5t^H OCT – GLASGOW, GI GIs, WEST GEORGE STREET (w/JOSEF K, ENDGAMES)

10^TH OCT – EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (‘POSTCARD PACKAGE w/JOSEF K)

19^TH OCT – LONDON, MARQUEE (w/THE ASSOCIATES)
1^ST NOV  - MANCHESTER POLY  (w/ THE FALL, JOSEF K – cancelled -  KEVIN HEWITT, CHOIR BOYS, HAMSTERS, AU PAIRS, JOHN PEEL ROADSHOW)

2ND NOV - LONDON, LYCEUM (SUPPORTING BUZZCOCKS w/DELMONTES, AUPAIRS, THINGS)

8TH DEC - LANCASTER UNIVERSITY* (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
9TH DEC - GLASGOW, TIFFANYS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
11TH DEC - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES; FIRST NIGHT OF ROCK CITY)
12TH DEC - HULL, CITY HALL (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
14TH DEC - SOUTHAMPTON, GAUMONT* (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES) (ORIGINALLY DOWN TO PLAY LONDON, 101 CLUB WITH FIRE ENGINES ON THIS DATE, ASSUMED CANCELLED)
15TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
16TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)

17^TH/18^TH DEC – BELFAST (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES) (DID NOT TRAVEL/CANCELLED)

17^TH DEC – LONDON, MOONLIGHT CLUB (w/ BLUE ORCHIDS)

DEC – QMU GLASGOW, XMAS ALL NIGHTER

31^ST DEC - BRUSSELS, PLAN K (w/ JOSEF K, MARINE)

?? - GLASGOW, SQUARE THEATRE (w/METROPAK)

?? – GLASGOW, MAYFAIR (w/FIRE ENGINES, BOBBY BLUEBELL ON SOUND-DESK )(RECALLED BY BOBBY GILLESPIE)- BUT WAS THIS THE ROSELAND (NIGHT MOVES) GIG 1981?

?? LONDON, ULU (with Associates) OCT 17^th?

?? TAV BAR, DUNDEE UNIVERSITY

1981:

4TH JAN - LONDON, ICA (w/JOSEF K, BLUE ORCHIDS)

31^ST JAN – EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/AZTEC CAMERA) (recorded for Forth Radio)

 

POOR OLD SOUL RELEASED, MARCH 1981

19TH MARCH - LEEDS WAREHOUSE
20TH MARCH - RETFORD, PORTERHOUSE
21ST MARCH - MIDDLESBROUGH, ROCK GARDENS
31ST MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, BOAT CLUB*
1ST APRIL - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS (w/ THE DECORATORS)*
2ND APRIL - SHEFFIELD, LIMIT CLUB (w/POSITIVE CODE, INTERNATIONAL MODEL TEAM)
3RD APRIL - LIVERPOOL, BRADYS (w/THE CABAL)
10TH APRIL - STIRLING, MAYFIELD COMMUNITY CENTRE*

22ND APRIL - GLASGOW, ROSELAND BALLROOM (NIGHT MOVES) (w/FIRE ENGINES)

APRIL ? – ABERDEEN, DOUGLAS (METRO) HOTEL (w/THE PRESIDENTS MEN)

4^TH MAY – OXFORD, SCAMPS

7^h MAY(?) – WOLVERHAMPTON LAFAYETTE (GIG ON A THU NIGHT)
10TH MAY - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS* (w/ BLAZING SADDLES)

20^th MAY – PAISLEY, UNIVERSITY WEST SCOTLAND

12^TH JUNE - OLYMPIA, EAST KILBRIDE (w/RECOGNITIONS, RESTRICTED CODE, JOHN PEEL ROADSHOW)
10TH JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB* (W/AZTEC CAMERA, POSITIVE NOISE; FILMED FOR TV)
6TH AUG - LONDON, THE VENUE * (w/ THE BLUEBELLS)
19^TH AUG - LIVERPOOL, PLATOS BALLROOM (w/ PALE FOUNTAINS, WILD SWANS)

20TH AUG - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE (no support just DJ)

 

MALCOLM ROSS JOINS ORANGE JUICE END AUG 1981

 

LOVE…l.o.v.e RELEASED OCT 1981

 

OCTOBER – LONDON, SOHO (FILMED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, AIRED 6.11.81) (FIVE PIECE OJ)

 

JAMES AND STEVEN LEAVE LATE OCT 1981

 

1^ST NOV – EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/AZTEC CAMERA, BLUEBELLS, JAZZATEERS) (COLIN AULD ON DRUMS)

10TH DEC – LONDON, VENUE (SUPPORTING AZTEC CAMERA, STAND-IN DRUMMER?)

17^TH DEC – GLASGOW, NIGHT MOVES (w/AZTEC CAMERA, BLUEBELLS, JAZZATEERS) (COLIN AULD ON DRUMS?)

 

?? - HULL, DINGWALLS

?? – ABERDEEN, HOTEL METRO or VENUE?

1982:

ZEKE JOINS JAN 1982

 

20TH JAN - LONDON, THE VENUE (w/DOLLY MIXTURE, AZTEC CAMERA replacing BLUEBELLS who couldn’t travel because of snow)
21ST JAN - MANCHESTER,  FAGINS AT EDEN* (ABOVE RAFTERS)
22ND JAN – NORWICH UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA (w/THE FARMER’S BOYS) (RESCHEDULED FROM 19^TH)

23^RD JAN – LIVERPOOL, WAREHOUSE, FLEET STREET (w/BALCONY)

 

1ST FEB YOU CAN’T HIDE YOUR LOVE FOREVER RELEASED

17TH FEB - BRISTOL, ANSON ROOMS, UNIVERSITY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
19TH FEB - BIRMINGHAM, IMPERIAL CINEMA (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
20TH FEB - DURHAM, UNIVERSITY (w/ THE HAPPY FAMILY)
22ND FEB - NEWCASTLE, BIERKELLER/SOUL KITCHEN (w/ THE HAPPY FAMILY)

24TH FEB – LIVERPOOL UNIVERSITY, MOUNTFORD  HALL
25TH FEB - LONDON, THE VENUE (w/ CHINA CRISIS, JANGLETTIES)
26TH FEB – LONDON, HOLLOWAY, NORTH LONDON POLY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
27TH FEB – BRIGHTON, MANDELA HALL, SUSSEX UNIVERSITY (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
1ST MARCH - OXFORD, SCAMPS (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE, JANGLETTIES)
2ND MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ CHINA CRISIS)
3RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, FAGINS (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
5TH MARCH - LEICESTER, UNIVERSITY  (w/ CHINA CRISIS)
6TH MARCH - RETFORD PORTERHOUSE
8TH MARCH - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE (w/ DISLOCATION DANCE)
4TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS (w/CHINA CRISIS)

6^th APRIL – GLASGOW MAYFAIR (w/CHINA CRISIS)

13^TH MAY – DUBLIN, TV CLUB (w/THE BLADES)

14^TH MAY – DUBLIN, TRINITY COLLEGE BALL

12TH JUNE – STIRLING MAYFIELD CENTRE (w/22 BEACHES)
16TH JUNE - BRADFORD, UNIVERSITY (w/GO BETWEENS)
17TH JUNE – LEEDS POLY (w/GO BETWEENS)

 

6^TH AUGUST TWO HEARTS TOGETHER RELEASED

12TH NOV RIP IT UP RELEASED

 

11^th NOV- LONDON, BRIXTON ACE (w/ORKESTRA JAZIRA) (‘WHATEVER YOU WANT’ TV)

13TH NOV - CARDIFF, UNIVERSITY
17TH NOV - LEICESTER, POLY*
18TH NOV - SHEFFIELD, LYCEUM
20TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY* (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
21ST NOV - BRISTOL, LOCARNO (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
22ND NOV - BRIGHTON, TOP RANK
24TH NOV - KEELE, UNIVERSITY (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
25TH NOV - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
26TH NOV - LIVERPOOL, UNIVERSITY, MOUNTFORD HALL (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)

27^TH NOV – LANCASTER, SUGAR HOUSE (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
29TH NOV - EDINBURGH, COASTERS (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
30TH NOV - GLASGOW, MAYFAIR (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)
1ST DEC - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
2ND DEC - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE & FARMER’S BOYS)

30TH DEC - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY?


1983

26TH MARCH - NEWCASTLE, DINGWALLS (w/GO-BETWEENS)
28TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (w/GO BETWEENS)
29TH MARCH - HULL, DINGWALLS  (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE, GO BETWEENS)

31ST MARCH - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/MARINE GIRLS, GO-BETWEENS)

4^TH APRIL  - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE) (MOVED FROM MARCH, EDWYN FLU)
5^TH APRIL- NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)  (MOVE FROM MARCH, EDWYN FLU)
1ST JULY – SWINDON, BRUNEL ROOMS (w/SCREAMING NOBODIES)

2^ND JULY – AYLESBURY, FRIARS, MAXWELL HALL (w/SCREAMING NOBODIES, MAINFRAME)

3^rd JULY – HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (w/BOURGIE BOURGIE, SCREAMING NOBODIES)
6TH AUG - LONDON, GLC PEACE CONCERT, VICTORIA PARK (LAST FOUR PIECE PERFORMANCE)

1984

23RD MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)

24^TH MARCH – SURBITON TOLWORTH RECREATION CENTRE
25TH MARCH - LEEDS, POLY (w/ GO BETWEENS)
26TH MARCH - GLASGOW, PAVILLION (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
28TH MARCH - LEICESTER, POLY
29TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT (w/INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
30TH MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA (w/GO BETWEENS)*
31ST MARCH - BIRMINGHAM, POLY
28TH APRIL - COLCHESTER, UNIVERSITY OF ESSEX

3RD MAY - ABERYSTWYTH, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK) (‘WHETHER BY ACCIDENT OR DESIGN’ TOUR)
4TH MAY - SWANSEA, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK)
5TH MAY - OXFORD, POLY (w/ BLACK)
6TH MAY - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/PALE FOUNTAINS, BLACK)
9TH MAY - NEWCASTLE, MAYFAIR CLUB (w/ BLACK)
10TH MAY - ABERDEEN, RITZY (w/ BLACK)
12TH MAY - DUNDEE, UNIVERSITY (w/ BLACK)

13^tTH MAY – EDINBURGH, CALEY PALACE (w/ BLACK)

17^th JUN – DUNSTABLE, QUEENSWAY HALL (w/VIOLENT FEMMES) (DID THIS HAPPEN?)

18th JUN? – CAMBRIDGE, SELWYN COLLEGE MAY BALL (w/TELEPHONE BOXES)

19^th JUN – LEICESTER, MR KEISA’S (DID THIS HAPPEN?)
21ST JUN - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (w/JONATHAN RICHMAN, JAMES KING AND LONE WOLVES) ('DADA WITH JUICE')

22^ND JUN – BRIGHTON PAVILION THEATRE (w/ BLUE IN HEAVEN)

24^TH JUN – BIRMINGHAM ODEON

25^th JUN – MIDDLESBOROUGH TOWN HALL

26^th JUN – READING UNIVERSITY

22^ND SEPT – LONDON, CRYSTAL PALACE DOME (GLC GIG w/ MISTY IN ROOTS, AMAZULU et al, with STEVE SKINNER ON GUITAR)
1ST NOV - DUNFERMLINE, JOHNSONS (w/FOREIGN PRESS, ‘ARTISANS’ TOUR)
2ND NOV - GLASGOW, QMU
3RD NOV - NEWCASTLE, NORTHUMBRIA UNIVERSITY
4TH NOV - ABERDEEN, RITZY
5TH NOV - HULL, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
7TH NOV - MANCHESTER, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
8TH NOV - HATFIELD, POLY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
9TH NOV - UXBRIDGE, BRUNEL UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
10TH NOV – COLCHESTER, ESSEX, UNIVERSITY (w/FOREIGN PRESS, WE’RE ONLY HUMAN)
11TH NOV – NORWICH, UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
13TH NOV - PORTSMOUTH POLY (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
14TH NOV - CHIPPENHAM, GOLDDIGGERS (w/FOREIGN PRESS)

15^TH NOV - TORQUAY, 400 CLUB (w/FOREIGN PRESS)
16TH NOV – WATFORD, HERTS COLLEGE (w/FOREIGN PRESS) (BELFAST CANCELLED?)
17TH NOV – CAMBRIDGE, CCAT STUDENT UNION (w/FOREIGN PRESS) (DUBLIN GIG ON THIS DATE CANCELLED IN FAVOUR OF THIS?)
19^TH DEC – LONDON LYCEUM (w/BRILLIANT) Cancelled

1985:

19TH JAN - LONDON, BRIXTON RITZY (NOW ACADEMY) - LAST EVER GIG*

UNDATED

THE LOFT?
LONDON, EMPIRE BALLROOM (84?)
BANNOCKBURN COMMUNITY CENTRE 81/82/83??

WALSALL TOWN HALL??

ASSEMBLY ROOMS, EDINBURGH (w/BIG DISH)?

 

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Permalink Reply by Mark D on April 8, 2022 at 7:52

Nice full page feature on OJ in Record Mirror dtd. 10 April 1982. The Leicester Uni gig was presumably the 5th March 82.

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Permalink Reply by Phil Hubbard on April 8, 2022 at 9:44

Yes it also describes the chaos of the Retford gig, which remains one of my favourite bootlegs for that very reason - they improvise VU What Goes On and Josef K's HEart of Song while they wait for David's bass to get restrung. If you've not heard drop me a line! 

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