Orange Juice - Gigography / Fansite

Hi guys

I'm in the middle of collecting all information on Orange Juice via the web and articles etc so I can build a definitive OJ website.

The site will contain biog, discography, lyrics, videos, streaming audio, articles/interviews, reviews AND a definitive list of gigs that OJ played! This has never been done as far as I know and i'd like to have a bash at it!

I've trawled the net and so far come up with this list...

1979

2OTH APR GLASGOW, SCHOOL OF ART
21ST APR EDINBURGH, TEVIOT ROW*

1980

11TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS)*
17TH APRIL - GLASGOW, TECH COLLEGE*
9TH AUG - GLASGOW, BUNGALOW BAR*
8TH SEPT - GLASGOW, BUNGALOW BAR*
2ND NOV - LONDON, LYCEUM (SUPPORTING BUZZCOCKS w/DELMONTES, AU PAIRS, THINGS)
8TH DEC - LANCASTER UNIVERSITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
9TH DEC - GLASGOW, TIFFANYS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
11TH DEC - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
12TH DEC - HULL, CITY HALL (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
14TH DEC - SOUTHAMPTON, GAUMONT (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
15TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
16TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)

?? - GLASGOW, SQUARE THEATRE
?? NOV - LIVERPOOL, PLATOS BALLROOM (w/ PALE FOUNTAINS, WILD SWANS)

1981

1ST JAN - BRUSSELS, PLAN K (BELGIUM)
4TH JAN - LONDON, ICA (w/JOSEF K)
28TH MARCH - LEEDS WAREHOUSE
29TH MARCH - RETFORD, PORTERHOUSE
30TH MARCH - MIDDLESBOROUGH, ROCK GARDENS
31ST MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, BOAT CLUB*
1ST APRIL - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS*
2ND APRIL - SHEFFIELD, LIMIT CLUB*
3RD APRIL - LIVERPOOL, BRADYS
22ND APRIL - GLASGOW, ROSELAND BALLROOM (w/FIRE ENGINES)
10TH APRIL - STIRLING, UNIVERSITY*
10TH MAY - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS*
10TH JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB*
6TH AUG - LONDON, THE VENUE
19TH AUG - LIVERPOOL, PICKWICKS*
20TH AUG - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE*

?? JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (FILMED FOR JOCK N ROLL - LAST GIG OF LINE-UP MK 1?)
?? - CAMBRIDGE
?? - HULL, DINGWALLS
?? - OLYMPIA, EAST KILBRIDE

1982

20TH JAN - LONDON, THE VENUE
21ST JAN - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS
27TH JAN - UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA
17TH FEB - BRISTOL, UNIVERSITY
19TH FEB - BIRMINGHAM, IMPERIAL CINEMA
20TH FEB - DURHAM, UNIVERSITY
22ND FEB - NEWCASTLE, SOUL KITCHEN
25TH FEB - LONDON, THE VENUE
26TH FEB - 'NORTH LONDON POLY'
27TH FEB - SUSSEX UNIVERSITY (w/DISCO DISCOLATION)
29TH FEB - SHEFFIELD, ??
1ST MARCH - OXFORD, SCAMPS
2ND MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY
3RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, FAGINS
5TH MARCH - LEICESTER, UNIVERSITY
6TH MARCH - RETFORD PORTERHOUSE*
8TH MARCH - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
4TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS
15TH JUNE - HACIENDA, MANCHESTER
16TH JUNE - BRADFORD, UNIVERSITY
17TH JUNE - HULL, TOWER BALLROOM
13TH NOV - CARDIFF, UNIVERSITY
17TH NOV - LEICESTER, POLY
18TH NOV - SHEFFIELD, LYCEUM
20TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
21ST NOV - BRISTOL, LOCAMO
22ND NOV - BRIGHTON, TOP RANK
24TH NOV - KEELE, UNIVERSITY*
25TH NOV - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
26TH NOV - LIVERPOOL, UNIVERSITY
29TH NOV - EDINBURGH, COASTERS*
30TH NOV - GLASGOW, MAYFAIR
1ST DEC - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
2ND DEC - LONDON, LYCEUM
30TH DEC - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY

?? - MOUNTFORD HALL, LIVERPOOL (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)

1983

23RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
24TH MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY
26TH MARCH - NEWCASTLE, DINGWALLS (w/ GO-BETWEENS)
27TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (w/ GO-BETWEENS)
28TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (2 NIGHTS IN A ROW?)
29TH MARCH - HULL, DINGWALLS
31ST MARCH - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/ MARINE GIRLS, GO-BETWEENS)*
6TH AUG - LONDON, HACKNEY, VICTORIA PARK*

1ST JULY - SWINDON??

1984

23RD MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
25TH MARCH - LEEDS, POLY
26TH MARCH - GLASGOW, PAVILLION
28TH MARCH, LEICESTER, POLY
29TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT
30TH MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
31ST MARCH, BIRMINGHAM, POLY
28TH APRIL - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
3RD MAY - ABERDEEN, UNIVERSITY
4TH MAY - SWANSEA, UNIVERSITY
5TH MAY - OXFORD, POLY
6TH MAY - LONDON, LYCEUM
9TH MAY - NEWCASTLE, MAYFAIR CLUB
10TH MAY - ABERDEEN, RITZY
12TH MAY - DUNDEE, UNIVERSITY
13TH MAY - EDINBURGH, CALEY PALAIS
21ST JUN - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (FILMED FOR 'DADA WITH JUICE')
1ST NOV - DUNFERMLINE, JOHNSONS
2ND NOV - GLASGOW, QMU
3RD NOV - NEWCASTLE, UNIVERSITY
4TH NOV - ABERDEEN, RITZY
5TH NOV - HULL, UNIVERSITY
7TH NOV - MANCHESTER, UNIVERSITY
8TH NOV - HATFIELD, POLY
9TH NOV - UXBRIDGE, BRUNEL UNIVERSITY
10TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
11TH NOV - UNIVERSITY OF EAT ANGLIA
13TH NOV - PORTSMOUTH POLY
14TH NOV - CHIPPENHAM, GOLD DIGGERS
16TH NOV - BELFAST, QUEENS
17TH NOV - DUBLIN, TV CLUB

?? JUNE/JULY READING, UNIVERSITY
?? AUG/SEPT CRYSTAL PALACE, "free festival"

1985

19TH JAN - LONDON, BRIXTON RITZY (NOW ACADEMY) - LAST EVER GIG

UNDATED

BRIGHTON DOME THEATRE (POSSIBLY 84?)
LONDON, ULU
THE LOFT?
LONDON, EMPIRE BALLROOM (84?)
LONDON, FINSBURY PARK?
BANNOCKBURN COMMUNITY CENTRE 81/82/83??

* BOOTLEGGED SHOW

If anyone can fill in the blanks or add some dates for me then i'd be most grateful!

I also plan to have unofficial bootlegs of OJ and radio-sessions streaming on my site - so far I have both Kid Jensen radio sessions, the John Peel ones, a John Peel session from 1981 with Edwyn having a chat and playing "new single" Poor Old Soul, the Mike Read session, full OJ gig at London Lyceum 1983, the three tracks from Glasgow Pavillion gig given away free on tape with What Presence ?! 7"

I have some tracks from the Stirling University gig and one from a Keele gig - would obviously love to get the rest - I know of a handful of other bootlegs floating about - any details would be great.

I'd also like to investigate on how we'd go about getting all the OJ albums put up on iTunes so peeps can buy em??? It's utterly criminal that they are out of print!!

I just want OJ to have a proper and definitive website - there's precious few things scattered about everywhere on blogs etc and it'd be great to have them in one place :-)

ta

Jamie

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Permalink Reply by Rich Cundill on July 14, 2009 at 18:32
Am sure they played Hull Dingwalls before it burnt down (obviously!) in 81? Will pester some OJ groupies who followed them at the time and get back to you.
Permalink Reply by Stephen Skinner on October 20, 2010 at 17:19
Hello Rich

Orange Juice definitely played Hull Dingwalls. I know because International Rescue supported them.
I did the monitors for OJ and sang and played my Gretsch for IR.
Permalink Reply by Rich Cundill on July 14, 2009 at 19:03
In addition to the bootlegged ones marked - I have recordings of Hackney 6-8-83; Lyceum 31-3-83; Retford 6-3-81; and one marked as Sheffield 1982 but not sure which Sheffield venue it is.
Permalink Reply by Duncan Lee on July 15, 2009 at 8:42
Found a list of bootlegs for OJ on some website, thought it might help or clarify with dates
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD STIRLING, UNIVERSITY 10.04.81
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD PLATO'S LIVERPOOL 00.09.81
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD SHEFFIELD 82
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD KEELE UNI 24.11.82
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD VICTORIA PARK, HACKNEY 06.08.83
ORANGE JUICE B CD MD MAYFAIR CLUB, NEWCASTLE 09.05.84
Permalink Reply by Neil MacAlpine on July 17, 2009 at 16:20
Hi,

As I've said elsewhere I believe that one of the 1980 or '81 gigs in Nottingham was cancelled. I don't remember the Undertones, so it must have been '81. I don't know if that is true, and I wasn't living in Cambridge at the time, it must have been Oxford. My friend Peter was into an early yuppie phase, me the donkey jacketed, National Health specs type, made famous by Morrissey (how many 'r's and 's's are there there then?). We were both credit crunched in the '80s, so it is nothing new. When we got back to Oxford we stopped off in Headington for fish and chips, and there was Jimmy Hill, chin and all, buying his. He must have just been at the Manor Ground next door (as was, back then), and on his way home.
Well, there is a bit of ephemera - I dare say it won't be on your website! That's how music gets me though, a set of uncollated memories of people, places, times, etc. The "Thirds" album is a vivid document to me of a way I was living once, it made good music to stretch to - now that is a stretch!

Cheers,
Neil.
Permalink Reply by Duncan Lee on July 19, 2009 at 15:19
According to the book The Hacienda Must be Built by Jon Savage, OJ played there on Tuesday, 15th June 1982, the month after its opening party hosted by Bernard Manning!!??
Permalink Reply by jamiemoir on July 19, 2009 at 18:46
That does make sense date-wise.

I've added it on.

Duncan Lee said:
According to the book The Hacienda Must be Built by Jon Savage, OJ played there on Tuesday, 15th June 1982, the month after its opening party hosted by Bernard Manning!!??
Permalink Reply by Frankie on July 21, 2009 at 8:05
There is an original contract for the Liverpool 1983 gig on ebay this morning
listed here
which says it was 28th March not 27th (or maybe they did two nights?)
Permalink Reply by David Whitelock on July 21, 2009 at 8:33
I saw them in 1981 at The Olympia in East Kilbride, They were playing The John Peel Roadshow. They headlined and The Recognitions supported. I was there with Mathew Wilcox (Jazzateers) and Douglas McIntyre (Article 58/Flesh/Creeping Bent Reccords) and a young Claire Grogan dressed in crazy alice in wonderland style get up.
Permalink Reply by Tender Object on July 21, 2009 at 12:49
woah, thats pretty cool!
i'm young and from East Kilbride, i feel completely isolated! feel like the ONLY Orange Juice fan, say under 30years old!
where abouts in the Olympia was it? which disgusting ''nightclub'' haha?
i know my Dad seen James King and The Lonewolves and others in, i think Crsytals? or Tiffanys?
but i'm surprised to hear OJ graced my towns dirty floors.....
Did you see any other good bands of the same sort in East Kilbride?
David Whitelock said:
I saw them in 1981 at The Olympia in East Kilbride, They were playing The John Peel Roadshow. They headlined and The Recognitions supported. I was there with Mathew Wilcox (Jazzateers) and Douglas McIntyre (Article 58/Flesh/Creeping Bent Reccords) and a young Claire Grogan dressed in crazy alice in wonderland style get up.
Permalink Reply by Jamie H on August 24, 2009 at 20:27
The Olympia is now the site of Sainsburys.
Permalink Reply by David Whitelock on July 18, 2010 at 21:57
God a year later and I reply.soz..just noticed this. The Olympia had a ballroom, many greats played thier over the years. Alex Harvey, Nazareth...not that I saw them I m too young....lol. Cant think of any other cool acts at that time that played EK...however I did promote Mogwai, Idlewild and Sonic Boom some years later in EK. I once played at Peaches with comedian Jerry Sadowitz in the 80s with my first band called Ra Ra Groovy....they were kinda cool.sort of postcard vibe with a funk leaning and a sort of indie fay tartan look ...never released any records though.

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