Hi guys

I'm in the middle of collecting all information on Orange Juice via the web and articles etc so I can build a definitive OJ website.

The site will contain biog, discography, lyrics, videos, streaming audio, articles/interviews, reviews AND a definitive list of gigs that OJ played! This has never been done as far as I know and i'd like to have a bash at it!

I've trawled the net and so far come up with this list...

1979

2OTH APR GLASGOW, SCHOOL OF ART
21ST APR EDINBURGH, TEVIOT ROW*

1980

11TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (w/JOSEF K, GO-BETWEENS)*
17TH APRIL - GLASGOW, TECH COLLEGE*
9TH AUG - GLASGOW, BUNGALOW BAR*
8TH SEPT - GLASGOW, BUNGALOW BAR*
2ND NOV - LONDON, LYCEUM (SUPPORTING BUZZCOCKS w/DELMONTES, AU PAIRS, THINGS)
8TH DEC - LANCASTER UNIVERSITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
9TH DEC - GLASGOW, TIFFANYS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
11TH DEC - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
12TH DEC - HULL, CITY HALL (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
14TH DEC - SOUTHAMPTON, GAUMONT (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
15TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)
16TH DEC - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (SUPPORTING UNDERTONES)

?? - GLASGOW, SQUARE THEATRE
?? NOV - LIVERPOOL, PLATOS BALLROOM (w/ PALE FOUNTAINS, WILD SWANS)

1981

1ST JAN - BRUSSELS, PLAN K (BELGIUM)
4TH JAN - LONDON, ICA (w/JOSEF K)
28TH MARCH - LEEDS WAREHOUSE
29TH MARCH - RETFORD, PORTERHOUSE
30TH MARCH - MIDDLESBOROUGH, ROCK GARDENS
31ST MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, BOAT CLUB*
1ST APRIL - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS*
2ND APRIL - SHEFFIELD, LIMIT CLUB*
3RD APRIL - LIVERPOOL, BRADYS
22ND APRIL - GLASGOW, ROSELAND BALLROOM (w/FIRE ENGINES)
10TH APRIL - STIRLING, UNIVERSITY*
10TH MAY - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS*
10TH JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB*
6TH AUG - LONDON, THE VENUE
19TH AUG - LIVERPOOL, PICKWICKS*
20TH AUG - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE*

?? JULY - EDINBURGH, NITE CLUB (FILMED FOR JOCK N ROLL - LAST GIG OF LINE-UP MK 1?)
?? - CAMBRIDGE
?? - HULL, DINGWALLS
?? - OLYMPIA, EAST KILBRIDE

1982

20TH JAN - LONDON, THE VENUE
21ST JAN - MANCHESTER, RAFTERS
27TH JAN - UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA
17TH FEB - BRISTOL, UNIVERSITY
19TH FEB - BIRMINGHAM, IMPERIAL CINEMA
20TH FEB - DURHAM, UNIVERSITY
22ND FEB - NEWCASTLE, SOUL KITCHEN
25TH FEB - LONDON, THE VENUE
26TH FEB - 'NORTH LONDON POLY'
27TH FEB - SUSSEX UNIVERSITY (w/DISCO DISCOLATION)
29TH FEB - SHEFFIELD, ??
1ST MARCH - OXFORD, SCAMPS
2ND MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY
3RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, FAGINS
5TH MARCH - LEICESTER, UNIVERSITY
6TH MARCH - RETFORD PORTERHOUSE*
8TH MARCH - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
4TH APRIL - EDINBURGH, VALENTINOS
15TH JUNE - HACIENDA, MANCHESTER
16TH JUNE - BRADFORD, UNIVERSITY
17TH JUNE - HULL, TOWER BALLROOM
13TH NOV - CARDIFF, UNIVERSITY
17TH NOV - LEICESTER, POLY
18TH NOV - SHEFFIELD, LYCEUM
20TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
21ST NOV - BRISTOL, LOCAMO
22ND NOV - BRIGHTON, TOP RANK
24TH NOV - KEELE, UNIVERSITY*
25TH NOV - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
26TH NOV - LIVERPOOL, UNIVERSITY
29TH NOV - EDINBURGH, COASTERS*
30TH NOV - GLASGOW, MAYFAIR
1ST DEC - LEEDS, WAREHOUSE
2ND DEC - LONDON, LYCEUM
30TH DEC - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY

?? - MOUNTFORD HALL, LIVERPOOL (w/STRAWBERRY SWITCHBLADE)

1983

23RD MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
24TH MARCH - NOTTINGHAM, ROCK CITY
26TH MARCH - NEWCASTLE, DINGWALLS (w/ GO-BETWEENS)
27TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (w/ GO-BETWEENS)
28TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT THEATRE (2 NIGHTS IN A ROW?)
29TH MARCH - HULL, DINGWALLS
31ST MARCH - LONDON, LYCEUM (w/ MARINE GIRLS, GO-BETWEENS)*
6TH AUG - LONDON, HACKNEY, VICTORIA PARK*

1ST JULY - SWINDON??

1984

23RD MARCH - SHEFFIELD, UNIVERSITY (w/ INTERNATIONAL RESCUE)
25TH MARCH - LEEDS, POLY
26TH MARCH - GLASGOW, PAVILLION
28TH MARCH, LEICESTER, POLY
29TH MARCH - LIVERPOOL, ROYAL COURT
30TH MARCH - MANCHESTER, HACIENDA
31ST MARCH, BIRMINGHAM, POLY
28TH APRIL - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
3RD MAY - ABERDEEN, UNIVERSITY
4TH MAY - SWANSEA, UNIVERSITY
5TH MAY - OXFORD, POLY
6TH MAY - LONDON, LYCEUM
9TH MAY - NEWCASTLE, MAYFAIR CLUB
10TH MAY - ABERDEEN, RITZY
12TH MAY - DUNDEE, UNIVERSITY
13TH MAY - EDINBURGH, CALEY PALAIS
21ST JUN - LONDON, HAMMERSMITH PALAIS (FILMED FOR 'DADA WITH JUICE')
1ST NOV - DUNFERMLINE, JOHNSONS
2ND NOV - GLASGOW, QMU
3RD NOV - NEWCASTLE, UNIVERSITY
4TH NOV - ABERDEEN, RITZY
5TH NOV - HULL, UNIVERSITY
7TH NOV - MANCHESTER, UNIVERSITY
8TH NOV - HATFIELD, POLY
9TH NOV - UXBRIDGE, BRUNEL UNIVERSITY
10TH NOV - ESSEX, UNIVERSITY
11TH NOV - UNIVERSITY OF EAT ANGLIA
13TH NOV - PORTSMOUTH POLY
14TH NOV - CHIPPENHAM, GOLD DIGGERS
16TH NOV - BELFAST, QUEENS
17TH NOV - DUBLIN, TV CLUB

?? JUNE/JULY READING, UNIVERSITY
?? AUG/SEPT CRYSTAL PALACE, "free festival"

1985

19TH JAN - LONDON, BRIXTON RITZY (NOW ACADEMY) - LAST EVER GIG

UNDATED

BRIGHTON DOME THEATRE (POSSIBLY 84?)
LONDON, ULU
THE LOFT?
LONDON, EMPIRE BALLROOM (84?)
LONDON, FINSBURY PARK?
BANNOCKBURN COMMUNITY CENTRE 81/82/83??

* BOOTLEGGED SHOW

If anyone can fill in the blanks or add some dates for me then i'd be most grateful!

I also plan to have unofficial bootlegs of OJ and radio-sessions streaming on my site - so far I have both Kid Jensen radio sessions, the John Peel ones, a John Peel session from 1981 with Edwyn having a chat and playing "new single" Poor Old Soul, the Mike Read session, full OJ gig at London Lyceum 1983, the three tracks from Glasgow Pavillion gig given away free on tape with What Presence ?! 7"

I have some tracks from the Stirling University gig and one from a Keele gig - would obviously love to get the rest - I know of a handful of other bootlegs floating about - any details would be great.

I'd also like to investigate on how we'd go about getting all the OJ albums put up on iTunes so peeps can buy em??? It's utterly criminal that they are out of print!!

I just want OJ to have a proper and definitive website - there's precious few things scattered about everywhere on blogs etc and it'd be great to have them in one place :-)

ta

Jamie

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Hi Malc,

Thanks for these dates - don't want to be pedantic but was the Netherbow show not with you as TV Art as opposed to JK? And if so, was this the TV Art show that was recorded and put on one side of a demo tape alongside a 4-song studio demo?...

Also, the 10/10/80 gig, I've had a tape of that Josef K show for many many years, but it never had the venue's name on it... now I know! ( BTW, you should ken its 'Nite' Club !) And before people ask, no, I don't have a tape of OJ from that night!

The Bungalow Bar gig in August 80, I have a tape of JK that night - only marked as "August 1980" and also have a tape of OJ dated as 9th Aug 1980 (you joined in for an encore of Chance Meeting), can't remember where I got the OJ tape from, but I think I was told the JK tape came via your brother!! Both performances were recorded from the audience, don't suppose you know who taped them? would it have been band members recording the other band on stage?

Cheers, Alan.
Hi Al, I often read mouth-watering accounts of recording s of OJ from the early 80s (the earliest gigs) - but never get to hear them! Would it be possible to (in some form or other (apart from transcription of course!)) put them on the web somehow? That would be really amazing!

Cheers

Bob
Bob,

I have uploaded a few Orange Juice live shows to Dime a Dozen over recent months, maybe not as early as these shows though. I'll try and upload an early one or two very soon.

Keep tuning into this site in the meantime, you never know, Grace might actually be uploading or making some of these shows available as well !

;¬)
Hi Alan,

many thanks! I'll check them out and also keep tuning in...I want to hear some of the old banter!

Cheers

Bob
Cheers Malcolm, was a pleasure meeting you and very much hope to see you again. I'll hopefully be getting more time to concentrate on finally getting a website together with loads of info on OJ!

Have a blast with Edwyn and the rest at yer next gig!

jamie
Hello.

I have an original gig poster from Nottingham Boat Club 31st March 1981.
I also confess to trying (& failing) to steal the tape of that night's gig from the mixing desk.
I see it's marked as bootlegged. If anyone has a copy I'd like to get hold of one.
I do have the Manchester 1st April 1981 show on cassette - yep, cassette!!
And another show from the same year, somewhere in Scotland as I recall - I don't know the venue.
I think the PA breaks down or something happens to a guitar.
There's a long rant from James (I think it's James) - about Gershwin - amongst other things.

I have no cassette player to listen to them on to refresh my memory.

Somewhere, on a old betamax tape, I have the 5 man line up playing "Falling & Laughing". Again there's the I can't play it issue - even if I could find it............ I don't recall the name of the show.

Steve.
Steve, if somehow there was anyway to post the second show (where the PA breaks down) on the web or for me to be able to hear it, would be a dream come true...or too true to be good (or something)!

Bob
This show was at Valentinos in Edinburgh on the 10th May 1981 (see pics on the main page for poster and ticket for this show).

It was recorded by yours truly and back in the day it was very heavily traded in tape collector circles so theres bound to be loads of copies of it out and about. I still have the master tape in my attic.

I mentioned in other posts that I have sent Grace copies of ALL the live OJ and Edwyn solo recordings I have - however, only today I got the package back through my door un-opened.... some problem with the mail system apparantly. I have let Grace know this has happened and I'll be sending them off again soon.

Included in it is the Valentinos recording (alongside a copy of the Nottingham Boat club show mentioned above). Check out my page on this site, I've uploaded a few live tracks on MP3 and I intend to do more soon. Also for those of you who may have missed it, I uploaded the full Orange Juice Glasgow Tech 17th April 1980 mixing desk recording to Dime-a-dozen a few weeks ago which has been very well received by those who have downloaded it.

Cheers

Alan
Hi Stephen,

TV show was called 'Something Else', I have mentioned this to Grace in a previous thread that it would be a great addition to the up coming boxset.

Edinburgh gig where Edwyn's guitar breaks down and James speaks about Gershwin and Veronica Lake is 10/5/81 at Valentinos. This was recorded by Alan L, see a few replies above. I know he has passed this onto Grace along with his other masters so hopefully they might be released officially some time.

Dave
Hi, this looks like a great start. Feel free to put a link to my Myspace Postcard Records page if you so wish. I have a detailed discography and nice photos on there too.
This looks excellent. Feel free to put a link to my Myspace Postcard Records page if you so wish. I have put a detailed discography and lots of my own photos on there, there's also lots of great links to a lot of the key artists, labels from the time in the friends section - www.myspace.com/postcardrecords
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