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Permalink Reply by Stephen Skinner on July 8, 2009 at 17:20

Hello

The very first time I met Edwyn, Steven, James and David was when I did the monitors for Orange Juice at Middlesborough Rock Garden. This obviously led to a highly rewarding friendship/musical relationship with Edwyn as I played in the very last incarnation of Orange Juice and in Edwyn's solo line up until 1997.
I can't remember what year it was - I'm guessing 1981. They played about 12 songs in 23 minutes because all the audience were skinheads who promptly turned their backs on the band because they were 'poofs'.

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Permalink Reply by Simon Greenwood on July 13, 2009 at 11:31

Great list Jamie.
Did OJ only play Manchester twice, I seem to remember a Manchestet Poly gig in between Rafters and The Hacienda gigs.

I wonder if you could put a star next to all the gigs where a bootleg audio or video exists.

I have about ten gigs on mp3, I will post the details next time I am logged on using that PC.

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Permalink Reply by jamiemoir on July 13, 2009 at 15:33

Thanks gang - i've added all those dates

Keep em coming if you find more :-)

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Permalink Reply by Administrator on July 13, 2009 at 21:47

Well Jamie you are a dedicated dear. Anything I can do to help, give me a shout. I'm a decentish manager but a very bad and disorganised archivist. The good news is that I am in the advanced stages of sorting out the release of a box set of Orange Juice albums and rarities by Domino Records.This will obviously be available in download form too on iTunes and elsewhere. Kris Gillespie, who heads up their US office is tenacious and thorough and is pulling it all together. I am currently sitting on a huge pile of boxes of every recording the band made for Polydor, all owned and controlled by the members who are more than happy with Domino handling the releases. watch this space for news. More power to your elbow!

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Permalink Reply by jamiemoir on July 13, 2009 at 22:42

Wahey!

This sounds totally amazing!!!

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Permalink Reply by Allan Ogilvie on July 13, 2009 at 23:08

Hi Jamie,
Saw OJ at Bannockburn Community Centre but can't remember if 81/82/83
Allan

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Permalink Reply by Alan L on July 14, 2009 at 9:45

A few updates for you;

Nite Club 11/4/80, Nottm 31/3/81, Rafters 1/4/81, Sheffield 2/4/81, Leeds 20/8/81 all exist on tape. I also have a tape of Liverpool Pickwicks 19/8/81 which you don't have listed.

Glasgow tech June '80 doesn't exist, this was the 'guestimate' date given in error to the 17/4/80 show when it first appeared on the scene.

I recorded OJ at Edinburgh Valentinos 10th May 81 and also Edinburgh Nite Club 10th July 81 - so these definitely do exist on tape as well!

My Valentinos tape has been in circulation for many years and to me it is still a joy to listen to... the gig was a bit of a shambles due to continual equipment failure etc, but the inbetween banter was "classic Edwyn" and when the band did get up and running, the song renditions that night were totally spot-on, especially the final encore, Moscow - a better version I don't think you're ever likely to hear - and well worthy of addition to any future Edwyn box set / compilation methinks!

Cheers

A.

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Permalink Reply by jamiemoir on July 14, 2009 at 11:27

All added and amended - thanks again!

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Permalink Reply by Dave S on July 14, 2009 at 12:32

I would just like to reiterate that Alan's recording of OJ at Valentinos on 10-5-81 is a classic and it's not just Edwyn who is in fine form. James had to keep the crowd entertained while Edwyn was offstage getting his guitar fixed, this included playing a bit of Rhaposdy In Blue by George Gershwin and talking about Veronica Lake. If there was anyway this could be officially released I'm sure it would be very well received and be a good accompaniment to the Josef K Live At Valentinos CD released a few years ago which also used one of Alan's recordings. Here's hoping something can be worked out.

Dave

Alan L said:

A few updates for you;

Nite Club 11/4/80, Nottm 31/3/81, Rafters 1/4/81, Sheffield 2/4/81, Leeds 20/8/81 all exist on tape. I also have a tape of Liverpool Pickwicks 19/8/81 which you don't have listed.

Glasgow tech June '80 doesn't exist, this was the 'guestimate' date given in error to the 17/4/80 show when it first appeared on the scene.

I recorded OJ at Edinburgh Valentinos 10th May 81 and also Edinburgh Nite Club 10th July 81 - so these definitely do exist on tape as well!

My Valentinos tape has been in circulation for many years and to me it is still a joy to listen to... the gig was a bit of a shambles due to continual equipment failure etc, but the inbetween banter was "classic Edwyn" and when the band did get up and running, the song renditions that night were totally spot-on, especially the final encore, Moscow - a better version I don't think you're ever likely to hear - and well worthy of addition to any future Edwyn box set / compilation methinks!

Cheers

A.

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Permalink Reply by Duncan Lee on July 14, 2009 at 14:19

I remember seeing OJ at Mountford Hall, Liverpool Uni with Strawberry Switchblade in support, must have been in 1982 because it's mentioned here. I'm pretty sure they played there twice once before the Royal Court and once afterward. I also went to see them at Brady's (which use to be Eric's), I went along with my brother who asked the burly bouncer if he was taking the piss when he told us that the band would be on stage gone 12.00 midnight. Too young to have a car and the last bus and train home was about 10.30 and for some strange reason the bouncer had took a disliking to my brother, we spent the next two hours playing arcade games in Lime Street and then went home. Mind you to all our friends the day after it was the best gig we'd ever been to.

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Permalink Reply by DF on July 14, 2009 at 16:32

I also have a tape of Liverpool Pickwicks 19/8/81 which you don't have listed.

Pickwicks would be renamed Plato`s Ballroom on certain nights so I think the gig stated 31/08/81 may be wrong. My cultural sources have let me down! Although it seems Paul Simpson of the Wild Swans thinks the gig was in 1980. See link. http://www.whisperinandhollerin.co.uk/chat/chat.asp?id=1392

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Permalink Reply by Rich Cundill on July 14, 2009 at 18:32

Am sure they played Hull Dingwalls before it burnt down (obviously!) in 81? Will pester some OJ groupies who followed them at the time and get back to you.

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